realize it's not necessary to trade money for time.. there's no need to "hold a job" as you put it.

you can do one of two things:

a) trade time for money b) create systems that provide value

it's easier to work a job. creating valuable systems is much more rewarding though.

If you were to create a valuable system in order to obtain life's necessities, wouldn't that be your job? Seems like semantics to me.

no, once a system is in place the only job left is to maintain it.. consider for example, authoring a book.. it takes a lot of work initially, but the system will reward you for the rest of your life without anymore effort.

I don't see how writing a book is creating a system. It's a book. And writing books makes one an author, which is a job. Very few have the capability to author a book that will reward them for the rest of their lives. Maybe you could give me another example.

it certainly depends on your skills as a person. There's a difference though, between working, and working a job.

I'm suggesting that if you invest your talent into a system (instead of into an employers system) you're going to reap those rewards forever (instead of the guy you work for)

You can create any system. Most of them involve employing large amounts of people and scraping a couple dollars an hour out of all of them.

Basically the idea is that while everyone else works for a living they're also working for the employers living. Unfortunately most employers aren't interested in what's known as a 'fair share' and that leaves unambitious people in the same class struggle that has always existed.

then again, maybe I'm misunderstanding. I understood work as a job, as a wage slave. I'm making suggestions to avoid wage slavery, not work in general.

Got it. My initial question had more to do with the ability to do whatever, whenever. Even a self-employed person, who wouldn't necessarily be considered a wage slave, may wish to be doing something else with their time. Simply put, if you could do whatever you wanted each day, what would you choose to do with your time?

I would spend my time showing people how to get were I'm at. But I would still work, for some people work brings meaning to thier life. In general, I think that whatever you do for work should be something that you love so much that you would do it even if nobody paid you!

I would work...........on my golf game and tan on the beach!!!!!!!! No way in the world would I be working.

I would have to work at least part time. Get a job that you love doing and where salary would not matter. Of course this would be after I traveled the world once with my family and then once following one of my favorite bands.