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Are you afraid?

Joey Fingers
by Joey Fingers

Posted: Oct 07, 2008 in Culture

Tags: Chaos, economy, recession, depression, Collapse, Global, Fiscal, Bailout, Afraid

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Chaos, blackouts, no food or water... I mean, how would a complete global economy collapse translate into reality for us?

I believe that we will most likely make it through this insane period. That's what I keep telling myself, anyway. However, there is a percentage probability that this whole life as we know it could evaporate in front of our eyes and I'm not sure how big or small that probability is.

Are you afraid?

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joe.shearer

I imagine that economic collapse will be swiftly followed by the United States and by extension the entire world turning into a barren wasteland with biker punks riding souped up motorcycles and driving armored cars with mounted machine guns, and Mel Gibson going on a rampage and killing everyone.

And zombies. Lots of zombies.

joe.shearer on Oct 07, '08 at 01:06 PM
Nate

In the world I see - you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

Nate on Oct 07, '08 at 02:51 PM
Drinky_McGee

I'm counting on the aliens to save us.

Drinky_McGee on Oct 08, '08 at 09:21 AM
Jon Silpayamanant

We, as a race, put far too much stock in our abilities to actually change things.

Jon Silpayamanant on Oct 08, '08 at 09:40 AM
Christopher Lloyd

How we perceive economic downturns all depends on our perspective. I remember when I was first trying to break into the journalism thing back in the early '90s when absolutely no one was hiring. I thought things really sucked. The recession of the early 2000s didn't seem as bad to me, because I had a stable job during that period. The current crisis hasn't affected me personally yet, but ask me again after the next round of layoffs.

Christopher Lloyd on Oct 08, '08 at 10:20 AM
Nina Mehta

I think that was an answer town-hallers wanted last night. How is this going to affect me. The closest thing I heard was, "you may not go out for dinner as much," and holding off on buying a new car from Sen. Obama. Campbell's soup stock went up a bit.

Obviously getting and keeping jobs will be more difficult. I think with the housing 'crisis' it will keep people put for a bit. Less sold homes, less new jobs available. Better hang art on the wall, it looks like you'll be wherever you are for a while... unless you rent.

I wish there was some more investment in the future. Now's an awful time to be recently or almost graduated.

Nina Mehta on Oct 08, '08 at 10:38 AM
Joey Fingers
Drinky_McGee wrote:
I'm counting on the aliens to save us.

Aliens might kill us all, right? They are just as likely to destroy as save though, I mean, just playing the percentages. Drinky, however, see's the glass half full. I respect that crap out of that.

Joey Fingers on Oct 09, '08 at 09:14 PM
Drinky_McGee

WE NEED A PLANETARY BAILOUT!!! ONLY THE ALIENS CAN SAVE US!!! I WANT TO BELIEVE!!!

Drinky_McGee on Oct 09, '08 at 09:39 PM
MMA.Scout

Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both. -Benjamin Franklin

MMA.Scout on Oct 10, '08 at 10:54 AM
joe.shearer
Drinky_McGee wrote:
WE NEED A PLANETARY BAILOUT!!! ONLY THE ALIENS CAN SAVE US!!! I WANT TO BELIEVE!!!

Okay...so now we have aliens AND zombies. Who will win that fight?

joe.shearer on Oct 10, '08 at 11:45 AM
DaveCombs

Aliens have the superior technology, but then those zombies just keep coming... Here it is, zombies will turn the aliens into more zombies, and then zombie aliens will invade the rest of the universe and the resulting blockbuster film will generate enough revenue to jump start the economy.

DaveCombs on Oct 10, '08 at 12:04 PM
Drinky_McGee

Aliens ain't even worried about zombies. They'll incinerate them with their mondo death-rays of death. There won't be anything left but zombie dust. And, sure, that dust might move around threateningly, but it's still just dust.

We need the aliens people. Now more than ever.

Drinky_McGee on Oct 10, '08 at 12:14 PM
Joey Fingers
DaveCombs wrote:
Aliens have the superior technology, but then those zombies just keep coming... Here it is, ...

So very true. Will Smith... is your phone ringing yet? We have your next film.

Joey Fingers on Oct 10, '08 at 07:50 PM
joe.shearer
Drinky_McGee wrote:
Aliens ain't even worried about zombies. They'll incinerate them with their mondo death-rays of death. ...

See, that's where the zombies have the advantage. The aliens will think zombies are just humans, and will nonchalantly saunter down to Earth, and as soon as one of those b--tards gets bitten in the neck, they won't know what hit them.

Because you know they'll take that bitten alien back to the ship, where it will die and become a zombie alien, and it'll take the alien doctor by surprise, bite a major artery, he/she will bleed out in moments and now there are two, and the sickbay/infirmary will be overrun in a minute or two, then the entire ship. It'll be intergalactic armageddon.

Shoot, we're building a Will Smith trilogy here.

joe.shearer on Oct 10, '08 at 08:55 PM
Drinky_McGee

Well, ok, the aliens have the disadvantage of not having seen the eleventy thousand zombie movies we've made, and so they aren't aware of how the deal is supposed to go down. HOWEVER, you are assuming that the pernicious zombie virus will infect the aliens. This is a big assumption. I believe that our saviors (the aliens) are immune to all this hoodoo. They are made of technology and magic and will not abide a living death. The aliens are immortal and cannot die. If something cannot die, it cannot be made undead. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

And, yes, we should all put our heads together and build a blockbuster. Or at least a good B movie.

Drinky_McGee on Oct 10, '08 at 09:56 PM
joe.shearer
Drinky_McGee wrote:
Well, ok, the aliens have the disadvantage of not having seen the eleventy thousand zombie ...

That thought did occur to me, but I was operating under the assumption that the aliens were vulnerable to all of the same viruses, etc. that we are. I suppose they could have immunity.

Or they could theoretically have teeth-proof skin.

joe.shearer on Oct 11, '08 at 10:42 AM
bridgetid

I observe what is happening and try not to think of how it will affect me. I just enjoy life as much as possible.

bridgetid on Oct 11, '08 at 02:42 PM
Joey Fingers
bridgetid wrote:
I observe what is happening and try not to think of how it will affect ...

Buy an AK-47, tons of ammo, a Fear & Loathing level medical kit, several large bags of rice and multi-vitamins, a gaggle of preservative filled canned foods, find friends with a home in the country with well water and a deep understanding of small scale food farming and medicine, seeds of various plant forms, a couple thousand lighters, an SAS or Navy Seal Survival book, a book on the floral and fauna of our area, fishing poles and tackle, several axes, and more... all this as part of a Doomsday Plan. Honestly, we should all think positive but make a such a plan, Bridget. I only recommend this because it's ugly but true and I care about people on Indy.com! I HAVE TO!

Most of us in America have grown up being spoon fed a vision that life can and will always go our way: The Underdog Syndrome. Third World folks never expect that to be the case. The truth is, as many of us know, that sometimes life kicks your ass. And every once in long long time, life kicks all of our asses as the same time. These are the major events that change history, and occasionally, erase "history" as well all know it.

My friend Bridget is not afraid and I applaud her BUT still... is anyone else out there building their Doomsday Plan?!?!?!

Joey Fingers on Oct 11, '08 at 03:59 PM
Drinky_McGee

Klaatu barada nikto!

Drinky_McGee on Oct 11, '08 at 09:13 PM
joe.shearer
bridgetid wrote:
I observe what is happening and try not to think of how it will affect ...

I love how some of you guys are trying to have a somewhat serious conversation about this topic as Drinky and I steer it back to zombies and aliens, while Joey Fingers wisely plays both sides. :)

joe.shearer on Oct 11, '08 at 09:53 PM
ArtistDan

I just came out from the millennium end of the world this year. Now I have to take cover again?

ArtistDan on Oct 12, '08 at 06:59 PM
Joey Fingers
ArtistDan wrote:
I just came out from the millennium end of the world this year. Now I ...

ArtistD, let's try to keep the doomsday conversation to this particular doomsday, please.

Although I must admit, I just recently emerged from my Y2K bunker a couple months ago. So yeah, I lost precious years of my life completely isolated from mankind, from light, heck, from everything. But at least I was safe!

Joey Fingers on Oct 12, '08 at 09:07 PM
DaveCombs

The next doomsday isn't scheduled until December 20, 2012, so we have a few years to prepare.

DaveCombs on Oct 13, '08 at 02:27 AM
Drinky_McGee

Here are some things that might be keeping the aliens from coming here to save us:

http://www.hobo-bonobo.co.uk/topten/topten-25.htm

Drinky_McGee on Oct 13, '08 at 07:55 AM
WKXY

Calling occupants of interplanetary craft.

Meltdown would suck, but correction shouldn't be thought of as cleansing. There is a stark difference from diappointing to devastated.

WKXY on Oct 13, '08 at 09:18 AM
Drinky_McGee

I've received confirmation of imminent alien arrival. WE ARE SAVED!!!

http://10-14-08.blogspot.com/2008/09/faqs-asked-about-10-14-08.html

Drinky_McGee on Oct 13, '08 at 10:38 AM
Jon Silpayamanant

I take offense at all this negative talk about aliens. ;)

Jon Silpayamanant on Oct 13, '08 at 10:54 AM
Drinky_McGee

THEY ALREADY WALK AMONG US!!!

Drinky_McGee on Oct 13, '08 at 10:59 AM
Jon Silpayamanant
Drinky_McGee wrote:
THEY ALREADY WALK AMONG US!!!

Hey--I'm legal! :P

Jon Silpayamanant on Oct 13, '08 at 11:08 AM
joe.shearer
DaveCombs wrote:
The next doomsday isn't scheduled until December 20, 2012, so we have a few years ...

Come Dec. 21, 2012, I'm sure there'll be another vague ancient calendar and/or religion that will forecast the apocalypse as nigh.

joe.shearer on Oct 13, '08 at 11:10 AM
Joey Fingers

Some aliens WILL eat your face off. It is with mathematical certainty that I make this claim. Don't be all up on their jocks. I mean, if you can't trust yourself, never trust an alien.

In fact, question everything...

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=5547481422995115331&hl=en&fs=true

Joey Fingers on Oct 13, '08 at 11:25 AM
Jenny  Elig

Joe, yes, I am afraid. I had Depression-era grandparents who sat around in the dark to lower their electricity bills, never threw ANYTHING away and split meals at Ponderosa...and they weren't poor.

I'm afraid of zombies, too. And aliens.

Jenny Elig on Oct 13, '08 at 11:40 AM
Joey Fingers
joe.shearer wrote:
Come Dec. 21, 2012, I'm sure there'll be another vague ancient calendar and/or religion that ...

People who have seen the crap hit the fan never forget, indeed, Jenny.

If we even get through this economic cluster F, I wanted to share this interesting link regarding the Mayan Calendar - End of the World. It appears as though we may have to look for another Doomsday:

http://askville.amazon.com/SimilarQuestions.do?req=december-21-2012-day-Myans-ended-calander

Joey Fingers on Oct 13, '08 at 12:43 PM
DaveCombs

Though the aliens may have superior technology and merch market dominance, here's evidence that zombies are gaining some traction, Zombiecon: http://zombiecon.com

Here's another fun doomsday/utopia coin-toss scenario: The Singularity

Transhumanists predict that in the next several years humanity will be saved by advancements in things like artificial intelligence and nanotechnology which will fix everything from poverty to global warming. Naysayers predict humans will end up getting annihilated in the technological tidalwave or as pets/slaves of "the machine". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity

Ray Kurzweil has analyzed the possible scenarios and advocates that with good planning we can prevent the dystopian ones. And he's, um, pretty smart, so I'm going to go with his plan.

DaveCombs on Oct 14, '08 at 02:02 PM
Drinky_McGee

How do the geese fit into all of this?

Drinky_McGee on Oct 14, '08 at 02:13 PM
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