Oblivion blues: Are these the end days for CDs?

David Lindquist

January 11, 2008 by David Lindquist

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After Rob Guernsey transferred thousands of songs from his CD and vinyl collections to digital files, he decided a smart move for many of his CDs was to send them packing.

Last summer, the 32-year-old Indianapolis resident dropped off five U.S. mail tubs of CDs at a resale store.

Guernsey estimates he has two more tubs ready to go, thanks to a perpetual weeding-out process.

"I'm cashing out of some of this stuff because I see a day not too distant when your CDs are going to be more of a burden than something having any value," Guernsey says.

A limited future for compact discs appears to be guaranteed as modern listening habits revolve around digital media players, computer playlists and what's hot at online music stores.

According to Nielsen SoundScan, the public purchased 844 million digital tracks in 2007. That's a 45 percent increase when compared to 582 million in 2006.

At its popular iTunes store, Apple has sold more than 3 billion digital tracks since going online in 2001.

The news isn't as upbeat in the world of non-digital album sales. The public purchased 450 million CDs, vinyl LPs and cassettes in 2007, a 19 percent decrease when compared to 555 million in 2006.

CDs revolutionized the music industry in the 1980s, when the plastic discs were celebrated for their durability, portability and high fidelity.

But for many consumers who extract MP3 files from CDs, the discs have become music's expendable containers.

"It got to the point where I'd buy a CD, usually it would go in the computer first and then go in the case and on the shelf -- probably never to come back out of the case," Guernsey says.

Bruce Williams, vice president of public relations and marketing communications for the Madame Walker Theatre Center, says he no longer buys CDs. He says he appreciates the convenience of purchasing digital tracks through the iTunes Store.

"I don't miss going in a record store and being intimidated," the 46-year-old says. "You had to find where you needed to go to look for new music. Then there was so much to thumb through. Then you had to go to the listening station and hope the music was even there."

Gone in flash?

If compact discs give way to another tangible music product, USB flash drives may be the successor. In the United Kingdom, record companies EMI, Universal and Warner Bros. are selling albums on the thumb sticks that plug directly into computers.

Locally, rock band Sweet Dilemma is marketing its own flash drive stocked with songs, videos and photos.

Sweet Dilemma drummer Bill Stamper says we're living in the end days for compact discs.

"It's a dead technology," Stamper says. "It has been for years. It's just that in the American economy, we can't kill things that fast. You would be hard-pressed to find somebody with a CD player in Japan."

Not so fast, says John Bachmann, founder of a company that does the work of transferring CD collections to MP3 files for its customers. New Jersey-based TunesGenie also sells new iPod players preloaded with entire CD collections.

"At some point, CDs will go away," Bachmann says. "But the demise is exaggerated. I think it will be 30 or 50 years out."

Donate or sell collection

If a stash of CDs is occupying too much of your living space, Goodwill Industries of Central Indiana and the Indianapolis-Marion County Public Library are two places that accept donations.

If you're hoping to convert CDs into cash, resale stores throughout Indianapolis purchase used recordings.

Disc Replay Movies Music & Games in Castleton pays from 50 cents to $3 for a CD that will appeal to its customers, says store manager Lauren Lemmons. The average payout is less than $2 per disc, and in-store credit can be applied to subsequent purchases of CDs, video games and DVDs.

Lemmons says contemporary hip-hop and classic metal are in demand at Disc Replay, while there isn't much of a market for vintage country CDs.

"I think a lot of people get rid of CDs because they feel like, 'I can just save it to my computer and get rid of the actual CD,'." Lemmons says.

However, there are also nightmare stories of music collectors who don't arrange backup storage for their digital files. Lemmons recalls one customer who brought an impressive collection of indie rock CDs to Disc Replay.

"He got rid of it, and he came back a few months later because his computer crashed," Lemmons says. "He was trying to buy back a lot of CDs he had sold. That was really sad."

Guernsey says he keeps digital files on a hard drive that's cloned weekly by a second hard drive. He also uses DVDs -- which hold 20 to 30 albums worth of songs -- to make tangible backups of music he's purchased online.

WTTS-FM (92.3) on-air personality Laura Duncan says she loads two iPods with songs she's gleaned in her role as music director for the rock radio station. What she hasn't done is transfer any songs from her personal CD collection.

"I looked at everything I had," says Duncan, who has worked in radio for 18 years. "It was daunting. How do you finish once you start? I just don't see the end."

TunesGenie, founded in 2006, caters to the overwhelmed.

"Not everybody learns to fix their own cars and do their own mechanical work," says company founder Bachmann, offering an analogy for music collectors who begin the process of digital conversion before running out of steam.

TunesGenie, which has a single-order record of converting 1,500 CDs to digital files, sends shipping kits directly to customers, who then send their CDs via overnight delivery.

The company's current rates advertised online are $1.49 per CD for collections of 50 to 149 CDs. For collections of 500 CDs or more, the rate is less than 79 cents per CD.

Walker Theatre executive Williams says he keeps about 75 CDs for listening in his car. Instead of converting those CDs into digital files, Williams says he repurchased his favorite songs at the iTunes Store.

"They're only 99 cents, and it helps the artist out."

Duncan says listeners have adopted a single-song mentality since the advent of CDs.

"If you think about it, people that were born in the early 1980s never really had the feel of vinyl. They've always had the CD in front of them with the ability to program tracks 1, 5 and 7, and skip the rest of them."

Guernsey, a musician and former co-host of WICR-FM (88.7) program "The Free Zone," says listening habits determine the fate of his CDs.

"To some extent, I still like to sit down with the stereo and actually listen to a CD," Guernsey says. "I'll hang onto something I think I'll listen to that way. If I'm just going to want one track, (the CD) is out of here."

File it away

By definition, compressed digital files don't retain an audio quality as high as what's heard on a CD. The members of Sweet Dilemma debated the issue of placing large or small digital files on the USB flash drives they're selling for $15.

The final decision was compressed MP3s, which allowed room for the videos and 400 megabytes of storage available to users.

"Everybody says, 'Wow, what a great idea!'." drummer Stamper says of the flash-drive concept. "That's really the best response you can get."

Meanwhile, the uncertainty of future technology may be a compelling reason to hang on to your CDs.

"Let's say the next thing isn't MP3," Guernsey says. "It's 'MP12.' You can always take those CDs and convert them again. But what do you do with the (MP3 files you have)?"

Regardless of changes in the methods of listening to and buying music, Stamper says the sounds remain the same:

"Music is universal. When you hear your favorite song -- whether it's 20 years old or two months old -- you crank it up."

Digital dialect

MP3 files: A popular compression format for digital audio. MP3 -- an abbreviation of "Motion Picture Experts Group, Audio Layer 3" -- has no security encryption and adapts to virtually all operating systems. Larger-capacity iPod digital media players support the MP3 format as well as the Apple-sanctioned AAC (Advanced Audio Coding) format.

iTunes Store: Online site selling authorized digital files for iPod digital media players. Most songs are priced at 99 cents. Visit www.apple.com/itunes. Other popular online sites that sell songs as authorized digital files are Amazon.com, eMusic.com and Napster.com.

DRM: A newly obsolete software coding (an abbreviation of "Digital Rights Management") designed to prevent the copying of downloaded music. Sony BMG Music Entertainment announced earlier this month that it will be the last of the major record companies to abandon DRM, which limited consumer choices in assigning songs to digital media players. By selling MP3 files, companies allow customers to move content among computers and digital media players.

Lossy compression: A way to reduce the size of digital files that discards data but retains essential information. MP3 is a "lossy" format. The uncompressed WAV format is "lossless," and much larger than the MP3 format.

USB flash drive: Also referred to as a "jump" or "thumb" drive, it's a portable storage device that plugs into a computer's USB connector. Such a drive, which has no moving parts, often is used for transporting text, photos and music.

USB turntable: A way to digitize vinyl recordings. Manufactured by DJ-friendly company Numark, the TTUSB model is a conventional turntable that plugs into a computer's USB connector. For more information, visit www.numark.com/ttusb

Downsizing directory

Selected places that accept donations of CDs:

  • Goodwill Industries of Central Indiana, various locations. www.goodwill-indy.org or (317) 524-4313.

  • Indianapolis-Marion County Public Library, various locations. www.imcpl.org or (317) 275-4100.

Selected businesses that buy CDs:

To hire someone to transfer CDs to digital files, contact:

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30 comments

Rob_G.
Rob_G., January 15, 2008
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Here's the funny thing about this, Dave interviewed me at a time when I have the money to play with to finally put together the stereo I've been wanting for years. I've always done the best I could with the budget I had, but really wanted some vintage tube McIntosh stuff. Now that it's within reach financially, I just don't think I can pull the trigger for the simple fact that I rarely have the time to sit down and listen to music like I once did.

Believe me, I appreciate high quality fidelity. I still have a nice vinyl rig and am, at the very least, springing for a decent pre-amp for that finally. But the thing is, since I jumped on board with an iPod, I listen to more music and frankly don't enjoy it any less than when I was tethered to my stereo system.

Now, I am still keeping most of my CDs. Like I said in the article, the mp3 isn't future-proof enough for me. But, after a lot of trial and error and A/B testing, combined with a BitHeads portable amp, high end Shure in-ear monitors and the amount of hearing loss I've endured playing drums for almost 20 years, only rarely can I hear enough difference in the mp3s I'm ripping to make a difference. Very rarely.

irratebass
irratebass, January 17, 2008
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This article has me a little worried and puzzled, I myself have over 3,000 actual cd's, and yes it is a pain to live with sometimes finding a place for all of them. I have recently started ripping them to my computer suggested by my family and so far I am on the letter L, I have a 500g external hard drive, will these all fit? I don't know.

This is not counting the music I already have on my puter' so after reading this article, do I want to rip EVERYTHING to my puter' and sell my cd's? The thought entered my head until I read this: "Let's say the next thing isn't MP3," Guernsey says. "It's 'MP12.' You can always take those CDs and convert them again. But what do you do with the (MP3 files you have)?"

This scares me! + like other people have mentioned I too like to hold my cd cases and look at the artwork and read the liner notes and things, like in the old vinyl days.

So is there an answer? I do have an mp3 player (1 gb, if I have a bunch of short punk songs will hold about 300-500 songs, normal length songs maybe 200) NOT an ipod....I don't even know how to use itunes yet and I am scared to, because I have heard horror stories, I just use my Windows Media Player.

Speaking of, does anyone know if you can delete duplicate songs? Not by doing it manually either, like is there an option where it will find all the duplicate songs for you and you can select for the program to delete them for you? <------- does this make sense? I use SAM to playback music sometimes and this program will do this for you, so was just wondering if Windows Media had this option.

Anyway, Great article really got me thinking and I am at no solution, but I am running out of living space ha ha.

Ben Neff
Ben Neff, January 17, 2008
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Yes, who knows when the next standard file format to use with portable music players will come along. Personally, I think it will take a at least a few years if not more, but it's truly hard to say. There have been alternative audio file types with advantages over mp3 (MPEG-4 AAC, Ogg Vorbis) for quite awhile, but the smaller file size and familiarity of mp3s has kept it up top. I can see how that's troubling you with a music collection that large.

As far as deleting duplicate mp3's, there are lots of options out there, but I haven't used any, so I don't know which to recommend. I believe Clonespy is a recommended one. SyncToy and Dup Detector are a couple of other Windows options.

ayale99
ayale99, January 17, 2008
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As far as legality and fairness to the artist are concerned, the music industry & artists must evolve. Take Radiohead and Big Head Todd & the Monsters for example. Radiohead pretty much gave their album away for free but also offered a special album bonus package for purchase. Big Head Todd is also giving his new album away for free. But, you can also opt to purchase the album w/ DVD.

Given the current state of mp3's & downloading, it seems to be a wise move for artist to go this way. Give the album away for free and make all your money on touring & merchandise. If you are truly a great artist, you'll still make your money...just get used to a little less of it.

Cthulu
Cthulu, January 17, 2008
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I'm not a huge audiophile, but I can hear a big difference between CDs & mp3s. Also, I don't consider mp3s a permanent medium. I'll keep buying CDs for now.

eelish
eelish, January 17, 2008
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The thing that I'm really going to miss about CDs is getting the liner notes. I've put all my music on my computer and am thinking about getting rid of my cds because the space all they do is collect dust and take up space. Being able to take such a huge collection of music to work or on vacation with me is fantastic. I just can't quite bring myself to start buying from iTunes. I still buy CDs and rip them to my computer. When the file quality of the mp3s sold on line improves, I'll probably make the switch.

CodeBlueJustin
CodeBlueJustin, August 31, 2008
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Has anyone else noticed VINYL is making a huge comeback? What comes around goes around as they say, but to my ears MP3's do not sound as good as CDs, which do not sound as good a a good VINYL album.

Also, A lot of older albums were intended to be listened to as a piece, so if you just listen to the one or two songs off an album you know from the radio, you may be missing a lot. Plus, a lot of times, you buy an album for those songs and end up liking the whole thing. If you just download the songs you already know you like, you've just cheated yourself out of 10 or so songs you may have loved but will now never hear. Wow, That's as bad as only listening to commercial radio stations!

I think a lot of this boils down to conveiance in our over-busy modern lives. We're all "informationed out." It's a lot easier to do things this way. I would like to propose everybody sit down, turn off the phone, computer, TV etc. and pour yourself an adult beverage and listen to an album or cd all the way through without distraction.

JulieYoung
JulieYoung, September 1, 2008
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Album art was so much better in the days of vinyl. I think today's music listener is missing the total package when they eliminate the CD or the album. I suppose one could argue that it is all about the music at that point, but I think that the liner notes, the album cover, and images of the band go a long way toward creating a total package. Heck, even videos are so obsolete that in a lot of cases, I couldn't tell you what a band looks like. It's almost as if we still live in the radio age yet again. Sad really. We came so far.

bridgetid
bridgetid, September 3, 2008
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I think that CDs will last a while longer, but the market will be visibly moving more toward MP3 players and satellite radio until the next piece of technology comes along. It's been happening for years and the only thing that has outlasted everything is the radio. While it has been updated, the idea remains the same.

MyUsernameGoesHere
MyUsernameGoesHere, September 2, 2008
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I miss album art as well - I remember getting the CBS record and tape club mailing and having to do my picking form the hundreds of listings based on those little stamps with the album covers. If you didn't know the albums then you would spend a lot more time reading each one. I remember Van Halen Diver Down always standing out. Album art is somewhat a lost art and I don't expect it to make a surge back anytime soon.

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